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Red Ape · Aug 28, 2006, 05:48 PM // 17:48

A couple of weeks ago I created my 2nd character a W/M. Originally I was going to use it as a mule for my N/Me but I had so much fun bashing heads up close and personal I decided to go with it. So I get it to 20 and the other night ascended and last night got to Droks???s upgraded my armor and hacked my way to the Iron Mines of Moladune. No one was interested in teaming so I grab henchies and entered the mission. It was as I remembered doing it with my Necro, fun and doable with henchies. Then I ran into Jade Armors. Instantly I had 10 bars of degen and was dead almost immediately. Ouch! That did not just happen. So I start the mission again, get to the same point, and whammo ??? repeat. It looked like all 3 hit me with something like Life Transfer that totally disregarded armor and a very fast kill. I remembered fighting them with my Necro that they were tough but nothing like that had happened (guess that char didn???t get touched by them).

Anyway, other than the obvious ???stay away from them??? any suggestions for warrior how to survive and triumph against these uglies?

Knightsaber Sith · Aug 28, 2006, 05:52 PM // 17:52

You're obviously referring to the mursaat with their spectral agony........ don't go anywhere near them until you infuse. That's not just for wammo's but for everyone.

makosi · Aug 28, 2006, 05:55 PM // 17:55

Avoid them. Until your armour is 'infused' with the Spectral Essence of the Eidolon (a boss with natural resistance to Murssat) you will die extremely fast when encountering these enemies. Towards the end of the Iron Mines of Moladune mission, you'll meet the Seer who will instruct you to kill the eidolon and your armour will be infused when you carry it back to the Seer. Thereafter, you will have minimal degen from the Mursaat and Jades.

Samuel Dravis · Aug 28, 2006, 05:56 PM // 17:56

You have to avoid the mursaat and jades until you get to the seer at the very north part of the mission map. Then she'll give you a quest to kill the Eidlion and you'll get 'infused', allowing you to fight the mursaat and jades without much damage from their Specral Agony skill.

more info at wiki
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Iron_Mi..._%28Mission%29

Red Ape · Aug 28, 2006, 06:16 PM // 18:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

You're obviously referring to the mursaat with their spectral agony........ don't go anywhere near them until you infuse. That's not just for wammo's but for everyone.

No, I am not referring to the mursaat. I am talking about the Jade Armor's. I know well to avoid the mursaat until my armor is infused. If the Jade's cast Spectral Agony it is news to me. Does anyone know if the Jades cast Spectral Agony? If not, anyone know what they hit me with?

Former Ruling · Aug 28, 2006, 06:16 PM // 18:16

BTW, S.Agony does:

10 Bars of Degen, and 100dmg a sec for 5 secs.

After Infusion it does:
3 Bars of Degen I beleive, and 9 dmg a sec for 5 secs.

Knightsaber Sith · Aug 28, 2006, 06:22 PM // 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Ape

No, I am not referring to the mursaat. I am talking about the Jade Armor's. I know well to avoid the mursaat until my armor is infused. If the Jade's cast Spectral Agony it is news to me. Does anyone know if the Jades cast Spectral Agony? If not, anyone know what they hit me with?

jades are mursaat too.......

Cherno · Aug 28, 2006, 07:29 PM // 19:29

Spectral Agony is a monster skill that can only be used by Mursaat, Jade Armors, and Jade Bows.

For 5 seconds, target foe suffers 1...24 Health degeneration, moves, attacks and uses skills up to 80% slower than normal, and loses 3...81 Health each second.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Spectral_Agony

Former Ruling · Aug 28, 2006, 07:39 PM // 19:39

The number ranges in the skill desp wiki came up with are weird.

My former numbers, as you'll see in the chart, are correct.

Ondo · Aug 28, 2006, 09:56 PM // 21:56

Knightsaber Sith and Former Ruling are correct in thier post. As called from the great wicki -
All Mursaat (including the Jade Armors and Bows) possess a power called Spectral Agony that causes great damage over a short span of time. Infusion is the only protection against Spectral Agony.
Also a character cannot suffer more than 10 health degen or health regen. Even though wicki says 30 degen for this skill, this fact makes it 10 degen. The Direct damage per second is 100 with no infused pieces of armor. Therefore one cast of this with no heal afterwards means dead in 5-4-3-2-1-x.x
With base health of 480 plus 41 with major vigor, then maybe a 30 shield and 30 fortitude you would have 581 health. Subtract 100 each second factor in the degen and damage received by the attacking jade and it can even be quicker than that.

AW Lore · Aug 29, 2006, 01:59 AM // 01:59

the numbers of the guildwiki maybe are related to the fact that you need to be wearing the 5 armor infused stuff:

headger
chest
leggings
hands
feet

if you are wearing all 5:

Quote:

3 Bars of Degen I beleive, and 9 dmg a sec for 5 secs.

this will be true,

if you are not wearing all 5:

Quote:

10 Bars of Degen, and 100dmg a sec for 5 secs.

this will be true.

if you are wearing between 1-4 infused armor pieces the degen will scalate down according to how many armor pieces you have on and are infused.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Spectral_Agony

check the table

xiao1985 · Aug 29, 2006, 04:01 AM // 04:01

just on the lore side.... jade armour and jade bow are not mursaat... mursaat are all spell casters... i am thinking jade armour and jade bow is more like their guardians or pets or s th...

but yeh they also use spectral agony...

**Marty Silverblade** · Aug 29, 2006, 08:56 AM // 08:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by xiao1985

just on the lore side.... jade armour and jade bow are not mursaat... mursaat are all spell casters... i am thinking jade armour and jade bow is more like their guardians or pets or s th...

Maybe the Jades were made my the mursaat for protection. Since they knew spectral agony was such a powerful spell they gave it them.

Avarre · Aug 29, 2006, 10:53 AM // 10:53

Jade armor are constucts animated by the Mursaat, entailing all the Mursaat powers. Think of them as Mursaat drones / armored troops.

Poison Ivy · Aug 29, 2006, 10:58 AM // 10:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avarre

Jade armor are constucts animated by the Mursaat, entailing all the Mursaat powers. Think of them as Mursaat drones / armored troops.

That hurt as hell :s

Aug 28, 2006, 05:48 PM // 17:48	#1
Red Ape Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2006 Profession: N/Me	Wham - Bam - Dead A couple of weeks ago I created my 2nd character a W/M. Originally I was going to use it as a mule for my N/Me but I had so much fun bashing heads up close and personal I decided to go with it. So I get it to 20 and the other night ascended and last night got to Droks???s upgraded my armor and hacked my way to the Iron Mines of Moladune. No one was interested in teaming so I grab henchies and entered the mission. It was as I remembered doing it with my Necro, fun and doable with henchies. Then I ran into Jade Armors. Instantly I had 10 bars of degen and was dead almost immediately. Ouch! That did not just happen. So I start the mission again, get to the same point, and whammo ??? repeat. It looked like all 3 hit me with something like Life Transfer that totally disregarded armor and a very fast kill. I remembered fighting them with my Necro that they were tough but nothing like that had happened (guess that char didn???t get touched by them). Anyway, other than the obvious ???stay away from them??? any suggestions for warrior how to survive and triumph against these uglies?

Aug 28, 2006, 05:52 PM // 17:52	#2
Knightsaber Sith Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: Few Fallen Heroes [FFH] Profession: W/E	You're obviously referring to the mursaat with their spectral agony........ don't go anywhere near them until you infuse. That's not just for wammo's but for everyone.

Aug 28, 2006, 05:55 PM // 17:55	#3
makosi Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: "Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff. Guild: Requirement Begins With R [notQ] Profession: Me/	Avoid them. Until your armour is 'infused' with the Spectral Essence of the Eidolon (a boss with natural resistance to Murssat) you will die extremely fast when encountering these enemies. Towards the end of the Iron Mines of Moladune mission, you'll meet the Seer who will instruct you to kill the eidolon and your armour will be infused when you carry it back to the Seer. Thereafter, you will have minimal degen from the Mursaat and Jades.

Aug 28, 2006, 05:56 PM // 17:56	#4
Samuel Dravis Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2006 Profession: Mo/Me	You have to avoid the mursaat and jades until you get to the seer at the very north part of the mission map. Then she'll give you a quest to kill the Eidlion and you'll get 'infused', allowing you to fight the mursaat and jades without much damage from their Specral Agony skill. more info at wiki http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Iron_Mi..._%28Mission%29

Aug 28, 2006, 06:16 PM // 18:16	#6
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	BTW, S.Agony does: 10 Bars of Degen, and 100dmg a sec for 5 secs. After Infusion it does: 3 Bars of Degen I beleive, and 9 dmg a sec for 5 secs.

Aug 28, 2006, 07:29 PM // 19:29	#8
Cherno Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Stars of Destiny Profession: E/	Spectral Agony is a monster skill that can only be used by Mursaat, Jade Armors, and Jade Bows. For 5 seconds, target foe suffers 1...24 Health degeneration, moves, attacks and uses skills up to 80% slower than normal, and loses 3...81 Health each second. http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Spectral_Agony

Aug 28, 2006, 07:39 PM // 19:39	#9
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	The number ranges in the skill desp wiki came up with are weird. My former numbers, as you'll see in the chart, are correct.

Aug 28, 2006, 09:56 PM // 21:56	#10
Ondo Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: USA Guild: Heavenly Shadows [milf] Profession: W/R	Knightsaber Sith and Former Ruling are correct in thier post. As called from the great wicki - All Mursaat (including the Jade Armors and Bows) possess a power called Spectral Agony that causes great damage over a short span of time. Infusion is the only protection against Spectral Agony. Also a character cannot suffer more than 10 health degen or health regen. Even though wicki says 30 degen for this skill, this fact makes it 10 degen. The Direct damage per second is 100 with no infused pieces of armor. Therefore one cast of this with no heal afterwards means dead in 5-4-3-2-1-x.x With base health of 480 plus 41 with major vigor, then maybe a 30 shield and 30 fortitude you would have 581 health. Subtract 100 each second factor in the degen and damage received by the attacking jade and it can even be quicker than that.

Aug 29, 2006, 04:01 AM // 04:01	#12
xiao1985 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005	just on the lore side.... jade armour and jade bow are not mursaat... mursaat are all spell casters... i am thinking jade armour and jade bow is more like their guardians or pets or s th... but yeh they also use spectral agony...

Aug 29, 2006, 10:53 AM // 10:53	#14
Avarre Bubblegum Patrol Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Singapore Armed Forces	Jade armor are constucts animated by the Mursaat, entailing all the Mursaat powers. Think of them as Mursaat drones / armored troops.